Comments on: Endorse the Amman Message of Muslim Unity http://jinnzaman.hadithuna.com/endorse-the-amman-message-of-muslim-unity/ [Islam and Revolution] A Blog Dedicated to the Intellectual Revival of Islam. Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:10:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Unanswered Questions Regarding the Amman Message | Global Intifada http://jinnzaman.hadithuna.com/endorse-the-amman-message-of-muslim-unity/#comment-1142 Unanswered Questions Regarding the Amman Message | Global Intifada Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:35:04 +0000 http://jinnzaman.hadithuna.com/endorse-the-amman-message-of-muslim-unity/#comment-1142 [...] time has passed since the Amman Message was issued and many people signed off on it, praising it as a means to eradicate extremism and [...] […] time has passed since the Amman Message was issued and many people signed off on it, praising it as a means to eradicate extremism and […]

]]> By: JDsg http://jinnzaman.hadithuna.com/endorse-the-amman-message-of-muslim-unity/#comment-645 JDsg Sun, 08 Apr 2007 06:54:03 +0000 http://jinnzaman.hadithuna.com/endorse-the-amman-message-of-muslim-unity/#comment-645 Interestingly enough, <a HREF="http://dunner99.blogspot.com/2007/04/amman-message.html" REL="nofollow">I wrote about this too</a>, and I also wondered about this confusion between the message and the sponsor. Interestingly enough, I wrote about this too, and I also wondered about this confusion between the message and the sponsor.

]]> By: Jinnzaman http://jinnzaman.hadithuna.com/endorse-the-amman-message-of-muslim-unity/#comment-623 Jinnzaman Fri, 30 Mar 2007 05:37:15 +0000 http://jinnzaman.hadithuna.com/endorse-the-amman-message-of-muslim-unity/#comment-623 Yes, I think its possible to be a monarch without being a tyrant. Monarchy is a form of government and may or may not be unjust. A tyrant is one who oppresses people takes away their rights. Merely because he receives aid from a foreign country doesn't make him tyrannical. Compare him to his grand father and father, and I think he's less a controversial figure. The only thing that he's done that is blameworthy is affiliated with an unjust power. Yet, in the unipolar world, its impossible to deal without a superpower. <br/><br/>Furthermore, assuming even if he was a tyrant for the sake of argument, the proclamation itself isn't a tyrannical speech. He isn't taking the rights of people away, but trying to preserve them. Furthermore, he isn't the originator of this effort, it was the 'Ulema at Al-Azhar that actually preceded this proclamation. King Abdullah merely used his authority as a public figure to attract attention to the proclamation which is designed to promote Muslim unity. Yes, I think its possible to be a monarch without being a tyrant. Monarchy is a form of government and may or may not be unjust. A tyrant is one who oppresses people takes away their rights. Merely because he receives aid from a foreign country doesn’t make him tyrannical. Compare him to his grand father and father, and I think he’s less a controversial figure. The only thing that he’s done that is blameworthy is affiliated with an unjust power. Yet, in the unipolar world, its impossible to deal without a superpower.

Furthermore, assuming even if he was a tyrant for the sake of argument, the proclamation itself isn’t a tyrannical speech. He isn’t taking the rights of people away, but trying to preserve them. Furthermore, he isn’t the originator of this effort, it was the ‘Ulema at Al-Azhar that actually preceded this proclamation. King Abdullah merely used his authority as a public figure to attract attention to the proclamation which is designed to promote Muslim unity.

]]> By: Taliba http://jinnzaman.hadithuna.com/endorse-the-amman-message-of-muslim-unity/#comment-622 Taliba Fri, 30 Mar 2007 03:49:17 +0000 http://jinnzaman.hadithuna.com/endorse-the-amman-message-of-muslim-unity/#comment-622 Is it possible to be a monarch and a stooge of the West in the Middle East without being a tyrant?! I wonder why exactly he needs $4.5 milion/year in U.S. aid--to promulgate democracy? I believe that the source (particularly of a platform we are to endorse) must be weighed along with the substance of the message. And I don't believe this source is any friend of Muslims. I sense your thirst for unity, which is alhamdulillah, laudable. I just wish Muslims might derive it independently, minus the taint of another corrupt Arab ruler. Is it possible to be a monarch and a stooge of the West in the Middle East without being a tyrant?! I wonder why exactly he needs $4.5 milion/year in U.S. aid–to promulgate democracy? I believe that the source (particularly of a platform we are to endorse) must be weighed along with the substance of the message. And I don’t believe this source is any friend of Muslims. I sense your thirst for unity, which is alhamdulillah, laudable. I just wish Muslims might derive it independently, minus the taint of another corrupt Arab ruler.

]]> By: Jinnzaman http://jinnzaman.hadithuna.com/endorse-the-amman-message-of-muslim-unity/#comment-620 Jinnzaman Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:10:22 +0000 http://jinnzaman.hadithuna.com/endorse-the-amman-message-of-muslim-unity/#comment-620 I'm not sure King Abdullah II is a tyrant. He's definitely a monarch and a stooge of the West. Also, the Amman message was merely a revitalization of the efforts of the 'Ulema from al-Azhar. Even if King Abdullah II is a tyrant, his tyranny didn't effect the substance of the message which was basically to promote unity amongst the Muslims. I’m not sure King Abdullah II is a tyrant. He’s definitely a monarch and a stooge of the West. Also, the Amman message was merely a revitalization of the efforts of the ‘Ulema from al-Azhar. Even if King Abdullah II is a tyrant, his tyranny didn’t effect the substance of the message which was basically to promote unity amongst the Muslims.

]]> By: Taliba http://jinnzaman.hadithuna.com/endorse-the-amman-message-of-muslim-unity/#comment-619 Taliba Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:57:59 +0000 http://jinnzaman.hadithuna.com/endorse-the-amman-message-of-muslim-unity/#comment-619 Theoretically, I think few would eschew the idea of Islamic unity. However, is it not contradictory for a tyrant, to be spearheading such an effort? And what is the significance of Muslims aligning themselves with him, in light of:<br/>"And incline not to those who do wrong, or the Fire will seize you; and ye have no protectors other than Allah, nor shall ye be helped."<br/>--Qur'an 11:113 Theoretically, I think few would eschew the idea of Islamic unity. However, is it not contradictory for a tyrant, to be spearheading such an effort? And what is the significance of Muslims aligning themselves with him, in light of:
“And incline not to those who do wrong, or the Fire will seize you; and ye have no protectors other than Allah (SWT), nor shall ye be helped.”
–Qur’an 11:113

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